alanosx: This all sounds like the PPC switch 6-7 years ago.
OReillyMac: Remember USB 2 years ago?
beamOSX: yeah, but there are plenty of people out there who don't have many peripherals. I didn't have hardware problems until I got a CD burner the other day.
alanosx: Let me say this...
Tell us about your Mac OS X experiences and how much time you're spending in Classic vs Mac OS X.
alanosx: Apple has been doing this for 20 years...they know their customers...and they understand technology...
alanosx: they forced us to switch to PPC...but gave us the emulator...
alanosx: anyone want to go back?
OReillyMac: Not me...
alanosx: Who isn't better off for switching...
beamOSX: nor I...
OReillyMac: I don't even want to go back to pre-USB
OReillyMac: or Firewire
alanosx: Apple has a way of saying...time to move on...come along or stay behind.
alanosx: They have ALWAYS been right!
OReillyMac: Floppy drive!
alanosx: I don't miss it.
beamOSX: Hah, floppy drives!
OReillyMac: I know, but sometimes it's tough love
alanosx: I'll say this... Jobs and Apple have guts.
beamOSX: the powerbook g4 is nothing but a 20GB floppy disk with a display, keyboard and a whole lot of power!
OReillyMac: And a great case!
alanosx: It takes guts to stare the computing community in the face... and say... time to go.
alanosx: One thing I would like to touch on in this discussion...
OReillyMac: Go for it
alanosx: is a few things that we think make OS X great.
beamOSX: yeah, I was hoping we'd get to that
OReillyMac: My next question!
OReillyMac: Alan, then Mike
alanosx: well... actually take Mike first... getting a word...
OReillyMac: Mike, then Alan
beamOSX: let's see...
beamOSX: The dock is really starting to grow on me
beamOSX: I find it to be incredibly functional and useful, and much better than what we had in 9 (which was just about nothing compared to the dock)
beamOSX: I like that windows minimize and get the hell off your screen with a simple command-M (shame on AOL IM & Acrobat for going against the grain here!). I like that my apps hide with command-H...
beamOSX: Eye Candy or not, I like my OS to look good
beamOSX: And with all the functionality that OS X provides as is...
beamOSX: there is still the capability to dive into its guts...
beamOSX: with the terminal...
beamOSX: with the dev tools...
beamOSX: It's something I have always wanted to be able to do on my Mac. When I feel like I've explored everything on the surface, I can pull back the skin and explore a seemingly endless terrain
beamOSX: OS X is incredibly stable...
beamOSX: incredibly functional...
beamOSX: and very powerful...
beamOSX: this thing has a whole lot of potential
OReillyMac: Those are great Mike. I couldn't agree more. One question before going to Alan's list.
beamOSX: and I don't mean "this fall we'll have drivers; this summer it'll be faster" potential
beamOSX: I mean "ten years from now we can't possibly imagine what will be the hot thing, but OS X will handle it like a champ" potential!
beamOSX: no problem!
beamOSX: I think that's all for me :-)
OReillyMac: Does your iBook wake up from sleep instantly?
alanosx: I would buy OS X just for Sleep
beamOSX: There is about a second between opening the lid and moving the cursor, but everything is on the screen right when I open up
beamOSX: at anyrate, it beats the pants off of OS 9, and it's nothing to sneeze at
beamOSX: If you're a laptop user, get X
beamOSX: one more thing
beamOSX: I love the new networking set up
beamOSX: being able to have multiple, prioritized, networking ports in one location... I come home from work where I'm wired to the wall, open my iBook and it picks up my Airport immediately...
beamOSX: VERY nice
beamOSX: I'm done now
OReillyMac: OK, Alan, I know you have a favorite thing or two up your sleeve too.
OReillyMac: (Thanks Mike!)
alanosx: well... networking... multihoming... I have three networks in my house and I don't have to restart to switch...
alanosx: OS X know what is there... and I can switch on the fly.
alanosx: wherever you go... there you are.
alanosx: I am glad Apple is trying to kill off the Desktop.
beamOSX: I whole heartedly agree!
alanosx: I say good riddance... I love the new navigation... really using the Finder for once!
alanosx: The ability to scroll view... the navigation rocks...
alanosx: I rarely have to restart after an install... unless it changes the OS which is rare.
alanosx: In five months now...
alanosx: one system crash.
OReillyMac: Hey that's nice ...
alanosx: I see some big things coming too...
alanosx: notice how closely tied iTools and iDisk are to OS X.
alanosx: the line between the net and the computer is getting blurred....
beamOSX: yeah, I never used itools/idisk before OS X
alanosx: This OS is amazingly customizable... a hackers wet dream...
alanosx: coming to the end of my list... but...
alanosx: the system prefs are so much better than storing everything in a folder in the system.
alanosx: This new prefs interface is far superior than a drop menu.
beamOSX: I agree
alanosx: The attention to detail... you know... Apple has always been mocked for their GUI... why...
alanosx: because many tech people felt if it looks easy to use and is easy to use...
alanosx: it is a toy...
alanosx: but the level of sophistication required to make a machine work this well... is staggering...
alanosx: and OS 9 did it well...
alanosx: OS X... once you get to know it....
alanosx: leaves it in the dust!
alanosx: The attention to detail may seem silly...
alanosx: but live the OS for four or five months... and you'll laugh at yourself for not switching sooner.
beamOSX: It's a shame more people can't appreciate Apple's attention to detail--in hardware and software. I've always thought that the Apple's attention to detail adds immensely to the user experience, in a subtle way. The details make everything more solid--makes me feel more confident about my computer.
OReillyMac: Gentlemen ...
OReillyMac: Thanks so much for dropping by ...
alanosx: My pleasure. Thanks for having me.
beamOSX: Its been fun!
OReillyMac: Ok, then it's a wrap!
Derrick Story is the author of The Photoshop CS4 Companion for Photographers, The Digital Photography Companion, and Digital Photography Hacks, and coauthor of iPhoto: The Missing Manual, with David Pogue. You can follow him on Twitter or visit www.thedigitalstory.com.
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